Is it impossible to be a certain rank, say, Gold 3, without having won or drawn against an opposing team where at least 1 player was at least Gold 2?

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Is it impossible to be a certain rank, say, Gold 3, without having won or drawn against an opposing team where at least 1 player was at least Gold 2?
Posted On: January 26, 2023

Note 1: I think this question is the same for csgo or valorant, but if you want I can double ask this question, 1 for each game. It'll have the same answers anyway I believe. Up to you. To avoid such closure you may assume this is csgo. (And treat 'Gold 3' as 'Gold Nova 3'.).


Question:.


Is it impossible (except I guess when the game was 1st released) to be Gold 3 without having won or drawn against an opposing team where at least 1 player was (at the time) peak-ranked at least Gold 2?


More generally:.


If someone, call this person Alice, has a certain rank X at time T then, among all the opponents in all the games Alice has played up to time T (excluding possible ongoing games), where the result was win or draw for Alice, at least 1 person should have at least peak-rank X-1 (as of the start of the game) right?


I mean I think Alice can't be, say, Gold 3 on 2022Jan01 12am and then ALL Alice's opponents in ALL Alice's games up to 2021Dec31 11:59pm (excluding a possible ongoing game that passes through 2021Dec31 11:59pm - 2021Jan01 12am), where the result was win or draw for Alice, were ALL Gold 1 or lower.


Note 2: If it makes a difference, then you may answer.


for the cases of then peak-ranked Gold 2 or higher (but may be ranked lower at the time) vs of then-ranked Gold 2 or higher (but may have been ranked higher before).


for the cases of all players that Alice's team won or drew against were Gold 1 or lower vs of all players that Alice's team played against (including possibly lost against) were Gold 1 or lower.


Looks like 4 possible cases total (8 if you do the 4 cases for each of the 2 games), but I don't think it really matters.


Related/Context:.


Farming: Prevent reaching a certain rating without having beaten/drawn someone of that rating (up to a point of course)?


Farming: Is it unethical to gain rating by playing against only weaker players?


Question from user BCLC at gaming.stackexchange.com.


Answer:

There is a chance, but its incredibly low.


I dont know exactly how matchmaking is done in CSGO but there is always a range of ranks in the same game. Usually within 2 major ranks (in valorant, if you are gold you will match sometimes with silvers, sometimes with golds, sometimes against diamonds. More often than not there will be more than one major rank represented in the game.) You could see that by using things like OP.GG.


The range could be higher or lower depending on how much people are playing. The game basically does a balance of giving you something as close as possible to you (a balanced match) and you not having to wait 4 hours for the PERFECT match. So you always have a range of ranks in your games. Above and below you.


Is it possible? By luck, its very improbable. It would be lottery style odds to never have to hit someone higher than where you end up in match making. It would basically need an act of god to never see a Gold 2+ person and end up gold 3. Something like every single player seemingly quits when hitting Gold 2.


Answer from user Fredy31 at gaming.stackexchange.com.



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Is it impossible to be a certain rank, say, Gold 3, without having won or drawn against an opposing team where at least 1 player was at least Gold 2?
Posted On: January 26, 2023

Note 1: I think this question is the same for csgo or valorant, but if you want I can double ask this question, 1 for each game. It'll have the same answers anyway I believe. Up to you. To avoid such closure you may assume this is csgo. (And treat 'Gold 3' as 'Gold Nova 3'.).


Question:.


Is it impossible (except I guess when the game was 1st released) to be Gold 3 without having won or drawn against an opposing team where at least 1 player was (at the time) peak-ranked at least Gold 2?


More generally:.


If someone, call this person Alice, has a certain rank X at time T then, among all the opponents in all the games Alice has played up to time T (excluding possible ongoing games), where the result was win or draw for Alice, at least 1 person should have at least peak-rank X-1 (as of the start of the game) right?


I mean I think Alice can't be, say, Gold 3 on 2022Jan01 12am and then ALL Alice's opponents in ALL Alice's games up to 2021Dec31 11:59pm (excluding a possible ongoing game that passes through 2021Dec31 11:59pm - 2021Jan01 12am), where the result was win or draw for Alice, were ALL Gold 1 or lower.


Note 2: If it makes a difference, then you may answer.


for the cases of then peak-ranked Gold 2 or higher (but may be ranked lower at the time) vs of then-ranked Gold 2 or higher (but may have been ranked higher before).


for the cases of all players that Alice's team won or drew against were Gold 1 or lower vs of all players that Alice's team played against (including possibly lost against) were Gold 1 or lower.


Looks like 4 possible cases total (8 if you do the 4 cases for each of the 2 games), but I don't think it really matters.


Related/Context:.


Farming: Prevent reaching a certain rating without having beaten/drawn someone of that rating (up to a point of course)?


Farming: Is it unethical to gain rating by playing against only weaker players?


Question from user BCLC at gaming.stackexchange.com.


Answer:

There is a chance, but its incredibly low.


I dont know exactly how matchmaking is done in CSGO but there is always a range of ranks in the same game. Usually within 2 major ranks (in valorant, if you are gold you will match sometimes with silvers, sometimes with golds, sometimes against diamonds. More often than not there will be more than one major rank represented in the game.) You could see that by using things like OP.GG.


The range could be higher or lower depending on how much people are playing. The game basically does a balance of giving you something as close as possible to you (a balanced match) and you not having to wait 4 hours for the PERFECT match. So you always have a range of ranks in your games. Above and below you.


Is it possible? By luck, its very improbable. It would be lottery style odds to never have to hit someone higher than where you end up in match making. It would basically need an act of god to never see a Gold 2+ person and end up gold 3. Something like every single player seemingly quits when hitting Gold 2.


Answer from user Fredy31 at gaming.stackexchange.com.



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